Here I thought he was just being cautious and checking that his laces were tied properly or waiting for that burrito induced indigestion to pass.
Simon Morley
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Tebow: "What part of Matt 6 do you not understand?" (go to your room!!!!)
by FatFreek 2005 inthis from my issue of time that arrived today: "'when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your father, who is unseen.
' this passage from the gospel of matthew was quoted by many readers who object to tim tebow's showy displays of his faith on the football field ... " "hey tebowers," wrote bill de armond of winfikeld, kans.
"what part of matthew 6:5-8 do you not understand?".
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I wonder if they will reuse this one when the come clean about the pedofile elders praying on innocent members....with the heading:
"In times past some unscrupulous elders saw the congregation as a something to prey upon...."
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Still a hard line on DF family members WTApr15 2012
by Gladring inthe april 2012 wt study article has some of the most strongly worded statements about contact with disfellowshipped family members.. page 12, paragraph 17: -.
good that can come when a family loyally.
upholds jehovahs decree not to associate.
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But, he admitted, had the family associated
with him even a little, that small
dose would have satisfied him. However,
because he did not receive even
the slightest communication from any
of his family, the burning desire to be
with them became one motivating factor
in his restoring his relationship with
Jehovah.If the above was true then the evidence would show the opposite would it not? Huge numbers of DF'd returing in droves because they family adhered to this "law". The sad fact is that it has the opposite effect, including sucide so it cannot be divinely inspired - as that law is based on what is the loving thing to do.
We have to remember that in the 1st century, it was Paul who set up much of the rules first, more to counteract a pseudo judasim emerging and so we find that on a number of occasions he almost cites the mosaic law as what they should do. It was not until some 20 - 30 years later that a written account of what Jesus did and said was recorded as reliance on oral history was weakening. If we read the greek scriptures chronologically you can see it clearly. I am sure that after the gospels were available and could be examined there were a few church leaders that perhaps seriously questioned disfellowshipping along with other rules they imposed.
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I have allegedly been charged with apostasy
by Igot2bme ini recieved a letter today and it reads:.
sister jennifer b****,.
we request your presence for a judical hearing.
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Simon Morley
Don't let it rattle you. You have options.
1) Send a DA letter and get on with your life, put in as much as you want, state facts, you never know one of the committee may get a conscience... then go and do something that gives you immense enjoyment
2) Keep doing the things that give you immense enjoyment, don't respond and let them proceed to allow a pea brained JC chairman with mock humility and an air of being deeply saddened wander up to a falling apart podium, with a backdrop depicting some paradise scene painted by a brother who knows squat about art at the end of the night and make some feeble announcement and then cheerfully ask all to rise (if they can) and sing song number 3, "God is Love..." ponder on the irony of that.
3) If you have the courage and tenacity - pull an Ed Dunlap, go out on a high note. Request emphatically that you be afforded your scriptural right to face your accusers (TWO not one) and let those dipsh*t's squirm (I have seen that before, it ain't pretty for the accusers), insist on your right to ask for specifics, dates, times, evidence, etc. Put them through the wringer...then go and do something that gives you immense unselfish enjoyment
All to often some dipsh*t feels they have to tell the elders and let them do their dirty work. When I was an elder I made it a point that if they had a problem, the scriptural thing to do is to approqach them first with the evidence. If that did not work, come back with the evidence and we will talke about it. If not don't waste my time and several evenings away from my family to all hours of the night (and morning).
No matter what happens, come back here, you are amongst friends who actually care about you.
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How do elders deal with Hermeraphrodites / intersex?
by garbonzo inhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/intersex.
how do they deal with it?
most religious views of homosexuality and intersex individuals if one of the major reasons why i am an athiest now (of course with all the contradictions of the bible and other books, etc.).
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It is none of their business. The bible is silent on many matters for good reason. Supposed higher law (divine law) is man-made in most cases - "Our law is this but God's is really this". Hermaphrodism occurs naturally and has done for a very long time. It would be unkind and unloving to ask such a person to make their own choice and then stick by that, God's law, which is hard to fully know is based not on right or wrong but on what is the most loving thing to do. Last para of WTWizard applies - they know how they feel and they should not feel that a hetrosexual or homosexual shoudl determine what they should do in my opinion. I would not ask them anything, reveal little and live a life to the fullest with the gifts given.
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CO visit. New light
by 2tone inif you want to skip to the new light or understanding, its underlined for you pleasure.
i think some will find this interesting.
we had the co tonight.
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Lets wait to see it in print.
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looky what they make the latest watchtower (public) say
by therevealer inthrough the new covenant, jehovah makes blessings.
available to many by means of a few.
the covenant are few, a mere 144,000. through.
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As most R&F don't really "read" the public version, is there a possibility that the GB knowingly entrap the unwary public with one line of thought while pursuing another in the study version?
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Need some sage JWN advice
by Simon Morley init has been two years since my family stopped attending and being "active".
my daughter is in her 30's settled and teaching with a masters degree she got post her separation and divorce four years ago from a witness, she is remaried and happy.
we just celebrated our first xmas since joining jw in the early 80's.. my wife now has increasing bouts of extreme anger (that border on violence) directed primarily at me for wasting twenty years of her life and causing my daughter to have periodic problems with flashbacks and anxiety.
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Simon Morley
Thanks Sab, that is truly sage advice in your post.
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Ouija Board Hysteria
by Megachusen ini always wondered why jw's were always so afraid of ouija(pronounced as "wee-yaw" not "wee-gee") boards.
does anyone have any speculation about who started these jw myths?.
anyone who has actually tried the board and would like to give their opinions are welcome.
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I go rid of ours when I caught my daughter's Smurf's in a seance late one night.
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Need some sage JWN advice
by Simon Morley init has been two years since my family stopped attending and being "active".
my daughter is in her 30's settled and teaching with a masters degree she got post her separation and divorce four years ago from a witness, she is remaried and happy.
we just celebrated our first xmas since joining jw in the early 80's.. my wife now has increasing bouts of extreme anger (that border on violence) directed primarily at me for wasting twenty years of her life and causing my daughter to have periodic problems with flashbacks and anxiety.
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Simon Morley
Thank you all, I wanted to wait a day or so to see how everyone responded. The suggestion of counselling is a good one, I will keep you posted.
All the best for 2012!!